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m5lig
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:
do we need a whip round to get you a haswell ? There's quite a step up in sound quality between normal and avx2. It's a bit like developing an F1 car, the technology get's passed down. Think we're nearly there with SQ, so next will be functionality. Never know, might integrate it with foobar, wonder what they would say to that.

Unfortunately a Haswell is only part of the solution . Other than one serendipitous moment some months ago I have never been able to play an AVX2 version. And after spending a considerable amount of time searching and experimenting for a solution I gave up on the quest to get these versions working . Part of life in the digital world.
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Re: MQN

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m5lig wrote:
sbgk wrote:
do we need a whip round to get you a haswell ? There's quite a step up in sound quality between normal and avx2. It's a bit like developing an F1 car, the technology get's passed down. Think we're nearly there with SQ, so next will be functionality. Never know, might integrate it with foobar, wonder what they would say to that.

Unfortunately a Haswell is only part of the solution . Other than one serendipitous moment some months ago I have never been able to play an AVX2 version. And after spending a considerable amount of time searching and experimenting for a solution I gave up on the quest to get these versions working . Part of life in the digital world.
Just to ad on this "digital world unexplained files" :
I had no problem playing big majority of the avx2 with my Ivy I7.
After a little crash, I can't play none of the WASAPI avx2's anymore, but still no problem with the KS avx2's!
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Re: MQN

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Adam how do you like Tellus? What kind of changes does it bring to the system?

And on MQN front, why only Ciunas versions?

For a long time I was able to play AVX2 versions on my AMD Athlon X2 (7-8 years old CPU ;))

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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:Never know, might integrate it with foobar, wonder what they would say to that.
Hi Gordon,
I would prefer to have KS without audioservice or/and an asio interface possibility in MQn first. ;)
Although that might work together with the respective plugin in foobar by the cost of additional processes...

But in general that step could be a good solution offering more people the benefit of MQn and get the ones which are looking for more comfort as well.

Thomas
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Re: MQN

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sbgk wrote:thanks sebna, should help until I get auto device working or if fixed still sounds better than auto.
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Re: MQN

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sebna wrote:Adam how do you like Tellus? What kind of changes does it bring to the system?
Seb, not much more to say than is already said here:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2903&start=80

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Re: MQN

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haha of course. I have forgotten I have asked you about this before. Sorry about that.
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Re: MQN

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anyone tried the 3.94/9.07 versions ?

uploaded a 9.07 1 loop version which I think is an improvement, think it only works on cuinas devices though.

the advantage of 1 loop is less code and the function calls having optimal alignment.

wonder if it's an indication that if the driver was part of the player then the sq would be better.

think the interaction between user and kernel is part of the problem and if it was all in kernel that would better.
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Re: MQN

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Have not tried latest versions yet but below some feedback on recent versions in RamDisk OS Setup.

I got Server 2012 R2 Essentials setup and reduced to Minimal Server with AO1.26b and then everything Optimised in AO except Wasapi/MMCS and USB optimisations.

I had been listening mostly to Control 3.87avx2 and Play 1644 24 bit 9.01 avx2 gk launched from MQNLoad before I converted to RamDisk and the combination sounded excellent wit same OS setup listed above.

Moving this setup to RamDisk has produced an extraordinary improvement in the Music I have listened to so far with Control 3.87avx2 and Play 1644 24 bit 9.01 avx2 gk.

The added detail dynamics and musicality of playback is astounding, its almost like I have added a very expensive set of Ceramic Speakers and a whole new DAC and amplification system.

Today I looked at the resource monitor to see if there are any clues.
When MQNPlay launches a 1644 track I am seeing the following:
CPU usage at on average 0.10% most of which is used by the resource manager with only about 0.01% used by MQNPlay on Core 0 (that is one hundred of one percent!!!)
No Disk Activity once track is loaded.
No Network Activity.

I then went to JPlay and ran the same test:
CPU usage at on average 5.5% most of which is used by JPlay at about 3.8% used across changing cores 3, 4, 5.
Lots of Disk Activity during playback of first track which eventually settles down.
Continuous Network Activity even though I have Network disabled in Bios and no network connections whatsoever.

Bottom line is MQN sounds much better and all I can say is that you appear to be on the right track with recent developments.

Hope to try more recent versions over the coming days, it is a more convoluted process now to update the VHD and then load to RamDisk so hopefully it works OK.

At the moment I just cannot stop listening to music!!
Cheers, Pearse.
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Re: MQN

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Pearse - one thing is not clear to me if read your post right. Have you managed ti install mqnload to RAMdisk, or you have to use traditional method with .bat program?
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