What are you listening two?

Seán
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Franz Schubert
Symphony no 8

Tonhalle Orchestra Zurich
David Zinman conducting


I listened to the 'Great C' again this evening and I find it lacking when compared to the wonderful Solti, Bohm and Szell performances.
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A brief respite from all things Zinman.

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Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 4

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
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Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 6

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
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Seán wrote:Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 6

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
The more recent Brüggen Pastoral on Glossa is far preferable to the one in Philips. He rethought the whole thing, and got rid of the hard-to-bear-cross of the metronome markings. He allows himself a good deal of rubato which is quite correct, the Pastoral may be the first composition that actually demands rubato.
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Jose Echenique wrote:
Seán wrote:Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 6

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
The more recent Brüggen Pastoral on Glossa is far preferable to the one in Philips. He rethought the whole thing, and got rid of the hard-to-bear-cross of the metronome markings. He allows himself a good deal of rubato which is quite correct, the Pastoral may be the first composition that actually demands rubato.

I finally took your advice Pepe and ordered the Glossa set!
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fergus wrote:
Jose Echenique wrote:
Seán wrote:Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 6

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
The more recent Brüggen Pastoral on Glossa is far preferable to the one in Philips. He rethought the whole thing, and got rid of the hard-to-bear-cross of the metronome markings. He allows himself a good deal of rubato which is quite correct, the Pastoral may be the first composition that actually demands rubato.

I finally took your advice Pepe and ordered the Glossa set!
Hmmm, pondering and procrastinating.
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Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Horn Concerto No 1, 2 ,3 & 4

Alessio Allegrini - French Horn
Orchestra Mozart
Claudio Abbado conducting.
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Seán wrote:Image

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Horn Concerto No 1, 2 ,3 & 4

Alessio Allegrini - French Horn
Orchestra Mozart
Claudio Abbado conducting.

I really like the Mozart Horn Concertos Seán. I never tire of listening to them no matter how often one has heard them.
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Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 under von Karajan....


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fergus wrote:
Jose Echenique wrote:
Seán wrote:Ludwig van Beethoven
Symphony No 6

Orchestra of the 18th Century
Franz Brüggen conducting.
The more recent Brüggen Pastoral on Glossa is far preferable to the one in Philips. He rethought the whole thing, and got rid of the hard-to-bear-cross of the metronome markings. He allows himself a good deal of rubato which is quite correct, the Pastoral may be the first composition that actually demands rubato.

I finally took your advice Pepe and ordered the Glossa set!
Good for you Fergus, it´s a tribute to the art of the late Frans Brüggen, maybe Seán will follow suit?
I know it´s hard to justify yet another Beethoven cycle, but Brüggen 2 is a landmark. He is the first to accept that it´s just not possible to keep obeying the metronome markings, maybe it worked for Hogwood and Norrington 20 years ago for the shock of hearing these works at neck break speed. What has happened after 20 plus years of Beethoven HIP is that one performance pretty much sounds the same as the next. When Beethoven played them for the first time he probably just wanted the musicians to finish together, now that is no longer a problem, and conductors obviously, and rightly, want to leave their personal footprint. I think Brüggen 2 leads the way in what´s next in HIP interpretation, especially in XIX Century music. Gardiner himself, just heard last week, takes more traditional tempi, not Klemperer´s tempi of course, but something that lets musicians breath and feel free in the notes.
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